10 .310 .159 The stepdown in the male is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule initially goes over the bamboo and steps down to 12/64 ID for the bamboo inside of the male slide. (Inches) (Inches) Stress My vote goes to L.C. Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. (Will McMurrey), Just very briefly, a Castle Connell taper is a good example, where you have a curious reverse taper in the upper part of the lower half of the rod. by Lee Koch 06/12/16 21:18, Post That's so the swell is still in the action length. Powell Rods. If you want to adjust for a different varnish assumption, or if you want to interpolate differently, then our actual measurements are there for you (or anyone, of course) to do so. As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. This is merely about applying engineering principles to designing a rod for a particular application. 0.266 0.120 All Rights Reserved. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? (Paul Blakley), I use the taper in Maurer's book, which is the same as Wane C's, which supposedly came from Young's mill. .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. (John Channer), I have never been able to describe to anyone else how a rod feels to them. Spotted lanternfly is an invasive plant hopper native to eastern Asia. by Morten 05/26/17 03:35, Post Even then I wince about their roll casting deficiencies. Special Note on this rod/ All the snake guides on the tip are 2/0 and the mid are 1/0 with a 8 stripper on butt section. by LeeO 05/26/17 07:47, Post 0.220 (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? I have a chart of the dimensions at home, if you need a copy email me off list. 50% due upon order placement; balance due upon completion. It didn't make since to me but went ahead and planed the butt section the way it was listed. They turn into 5 wts at about 60 feet, up till there, they are are 6 wts. the 3pc tapers were appropriated from other makers so it does not always hold true in that case. Dickerson rods have the charm of being different (and scarce). 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Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter Dennis looked over his rod and it, too, has two nodes right next to each other. by Morten 06/12/16 08:37, Post I do find that I am using much shorter rods than I did, I think its the American influence of this Listserv! (Will McMurrey). Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) 25 .232 .115 Mystic Outdoors is the premier manufacturer of high-performance fly fishing equipment for new anglers and seasoned veterans alike. I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. I cannot come up with an application for a 7'6''#5, with its inherent disadvantages for roll casting. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. It is quite different that the Garrison math method. "God made dogs to steal our hearts and they do.". If you want to make one as a sort of standard then try a rate of taper of 13.5 thousandths per station, it gives a Gould rating of 270 which is a useful point about which to have a conversation with yourself about what you think is medium fast and what you think is fast. 4 wt 0.0680 Bamboo Tips - Tips Area As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. 15 0.115 163502 All measurements were taken over varnish. And well worth the little time it takes to execute. Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) 6-strip Tonkin bamboo Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. One authority I know claims Jim Payne actually built more fly rods than Orvis. Look at a graph of the rod dimensions. Jim Schaaf. I will let Bob speak to the numbers and how they were derived. 25 .160 .308 Whether you're picking out your very first fly-fishing rod or coming in for a new modern fly reel after years out on the water, Sportsman's Warehouse can supply you with the very best fly-fishing equipment. We're committed to providing a safe, comfortable environment for our travelers. 6 wt 0.0752 Can someone email me the taper or point me in the right direction? Halstead. I would specifically urge all to look at the graphs. And, after you "get used to it" you will fall in love with this rod taper. : This is a 5 wt line SLT. I have fished some pretty big water with this rod and it has served me very well. 35 .186 .326 Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". I use it as my Hex rod & for throwing big streamers. If you were to design rods using a visual representation of it's deflection then deviation from a straight line doesn't matter. (Will McMurrey). (Bob Norwood). As to my question about the ferrules is, your rods say, e.g. 15 .258 .144 0.088 All sections are full length and straight. Manchester, VT 05254 One of our longstanding rod models with classic cane color and a slightly more moderate action. Hmmm. More info. All but the parabolic and the hinge will have the same ferrule dimension so tips and butt sections can be interchanged to create any of the major taper variations. If you add bamboo the the tip of the rod, you have changed its mass (MOI/MOE) relative to what it was. Though the course may change sometimes, rivers always reach the sea. So far everyone that has put the numbers up on Russ Goodings 7613 LT has listed 19 measurements. I have limited the list as practical to tapers which are not obviously taken from Hexrod.net, in RodDNA, or in contemporary books such as Howells, Gould or Mauer. We are typically roll casting about five yards of line at very small fish, so all things can be subjugate to that. Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. that'd be super! Lyle Dickerson tapered copies Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. that drop is a hallmark of all 2pc dickerson tapers. These are Bob's dimensions. Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. (Tom Smithwick), See what Steve says, lots of people (Americans ? They look very representative to what I have seen. . (John Silveira). You can vary the slope to get the "speed" you want (Garrison's are .013/5"; a B-9 .015/5"; and I've built them as fast as .018/5"). Dickerson 8015 Guide Special, 2607 - 5. I've fished mine from a drift boat on the Green river and had great success. The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. 5 .326 .168 The reason I also advise using stress curves is that when you make changes, add or remove bamboo, you also effect the rest of the rod. Just have finish paying for the last kids college. Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. To accomplish this I have added bamboo to compensate for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides.. Suggest that you subtract .006 for varnish. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection 5 .092 .242 However if we can define specific regions (tip, middle, butt) and understand the effect of removing or adding material in these areas. 30 .216 .099 The rod I measured generally has 3/3 node spacing with the exception of two nodes falling right next to each other. (Mark Wendt), Was the varnish allowance of .004 already subtracted from the numbers for the 661510, or does it need to be done? But you also have the opportunity to add or remove material any ware alone the length of that rod and doing so will have an taper specific effect on the casting/fishing characteristics of the rod. by slate river 05/10/09 16:30, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Garrison would have like straight line stress/strain results for the same reason Richard Walker did. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank (NOW IN A GLOSSY DARK GREEN) $70.00 9' 6" 5wt. 48 .224 .375, I don't know how Banjo arrived at the measurements under the grip and reel seat. 8 wt 0.0830 0.320 30 0.155 Step Down debate again. (Mark Dyba), Heh, nothing wrong with that. 42 .194 .066 (Max Satoh), Yep, the drop at the ferrule is .014 which should call for the use of a step down. (Jerry Foster), Where do you get that? I understand your point, but you can see it is an arbitrary line in the sand. I measured the rod after seeing David Ray's posting of an 861711 in his taper library that is accessed from Hexrod. Dickerson R.W. This board is for discussing the repair and restoration of bamboo fly rods, makers discussion and construction techniques relating to same. Daryll Whitehead would be another good choice. For the tip section use the smaller number and for the butt section use the larger number. (Will Price), Dickerson standardized his reel seats with a 3/8's inside diameter bore, hence the .375 under the grip and reel seat. Post All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! For example a 13 was really a 13.5? 0.278 As for the ferrule size, I use a 14/64 ferrule. I would suggest you should RESPECT the man (as well as EC Powell and others) who made contributions to providing us all with tools to understand and continue to develop taper design (Hexrod being one, a powerful and easily applied tool, I believe based on Garrison's math). The butt has a long flex area from 45"- 75" and a butt swell. I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. (Mark Wendt), Dickerson (like all of us who draw their own tubing) used 1/64 wall tubing to construct his ferrules. 0.178 The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. . 8ft #5wt. 0.256 (Al Baldauski). On the other hand, Dickerson was designing rods (most likely) for Michigan waters. (Will Price), Is not 7'6'' a bit short for a five weight? I will suggest that rodmakers as a whole are not (especially the "classics" who were trying to make a living by banging out rods), but also that minor variances of a few thousandths occurring at random do not have a large impact on the rod actions as a whole. by SpringCreek 06/12/16 10:45, Post Solid construction of suitable solidity involved unattractive weight penalties. (Gary Nicholson), The chap is obviously of unsound mind as the Perfectionist is IMHO one of the all time worst taper rods out there. (Chris Obuchowski). Find great quality fly fishing rods at an affordable price that fits any budget. And why not? All were very powerful eight weight rods with most of the action in the upper half. (Robin Haywood). Orvis passed the 60,000 bamboo rods made number quite some time back and of course is still making them. by cutthroattroutnm 05/09/09 16:50, Post I would say it's a strong 7 wt, but it should work well with a 8 WF. The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. He can correct this if he is still hanging around. Casting range allows for some delicacy up close and personal, to the times that you want to reach out and touch someone a bit further away. It looked fairly thin. And you are of course correct in pointing out that stress numbers means nothing without the particulars of the line weight and length. like .03%/inch. 6-strip Tonkin bamboo The American Museum of Fly Fishing is the steward of the history, traditions, and practices of the sport of fly fishing and promotes the conservation of its waters. What species do fish for with your bamboo rods? How drastically do you think it would change the action if I pushed the swell out in front of the handle? 40 .202 .375 )really love this taper. June - October (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! These are our limited edition models, only released every few years. Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. It's all pulled through by hand. Varnish of 0.004 subtracted. I would argue that the variances are due to machine error, rather than deliberate (consider that you are tapering the strips by running them thru a glorified router, excuse me milling machine, using a worn wooden pattern board running over metal rollers, to determine the taper. For those of you that have built this rod, does it flex into the beginning of the handle? (Robin Haywood), Why don't you design some roll casting ability into every rod? It will be one of the rods in what I am calling my Basic Reference Taper set. CFRF Tapers Tapers from Classic Fly Rod Forum The links below are to "classic" tapers posted to the Classic Fly Rod Forum (http://classicflyrodforum.com) in the Taper Exchange subforum. ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? 0.334 (four piece) carbon fiber spey blank. Users can select the appropriate Morgan Handmill Cutter to match the geometry including both the 60.5 and 61.5 degree cutters for hex rods. 25 .156 .310 .288@30 Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. Is that the 1949 or the 1951 version? Tell me about it please. The swell should start in front of the cork, at least 3" to 5". 50 0.203 148510 Strong tip; butt has flex area from 45" to 80" then a butt swell at 80". 75 0.279 126179 The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. 50 0.213 From 80 to 85, there is an increase of ~.070. That is all I did! Rods also tend to have varying sweet spots in terms of when the amount of line out feel just right. My first few 8013's have 13/64 ferrules and one of them broke off INSIDE of the ferrule. Perhaps I did not state myself clearly. Not too many folks consider these mediocre. Here's a classic Winston from the Hexrod taper archive. In fact, I use the 7613 that I made a lot of the time, even while Hex fishing last week on the Manistee! Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. 40 0.184 CSE made the ferrule for me. 45 0.186 158623 You may, or may not, as a rod designer, wish to achieve either, but probably not both! Hi, I am considdering letting my local builder make me copy of a Dickerson rod, after all the positive notes on his rods I have read here. Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. A significant part of that application are the prejudices of the person who is going to be using it. Conversely, the .202 is at the low end of fit for a 14/64. I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. All rights reserved. Dickerson 7012 (1954) from "the Lovely Reed". I have thougt of the 8013, as a 5 weight. 10 0.097 Station Diameter That is up to the tip transition point, or max tip stress point according to Garrison. (Will McMurrey), A picture says a thousand words. Listed as 7 wt but that seems kinda heavy? In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. 0.189 The '51 is a bit softer. 70 0.261 133729 0.288 It is my belief that there are only seven truly different tapers available as a base to design rods from. 0.078 I have made quite a few Dickerson tapers. It also is fine on smaller streams. At The Airport. These get assimilated quite directly into stress curve approach. We now have solid parameters around which to modify, to refine rod design characteristics. Actually I feel an increase of .030 would be sufficient. 85 0.296 138357 (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), As far as being a Straight horizontal Stress Curve it makes NO difference what the rod is as long as the conditions produce a SHSC. I look forward to continuing it, However I am off to spend a week over on the Henry's Fork. Short cased and portable. Spurred into rodmakingby losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on tobecome one of the masters of the craft. Everything is subjective, but for me Morten, the 1949 version of the 8013 listed in the Lovely Reed is the best version of this taper. Pt Butt Tip The 1970 Dickerson has the same type tip as the 1952 except it has a very shallow flex in the upper butt and a faster swell into the butt, a 4/5 wt, faster rod. If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? Dickerson 8015 Guide Model Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #6/7, Dickerson Model 8014 Bamboo Fly Rod 8' 2/3 #6, Dickerson Model 8013 Bamboo Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #5/6, Dickerson 761510 RB (Ray Bergman) Fly Rod 7'6" 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 9016 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/2, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711-D Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 8013 Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711-D Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 901812-C Bamboo Rod 9' 3/2 #7, Lyle Dickerson Model 6611 Bamboo Rod 6'6" 2/2 #3/4, Lyle Dickerson Model 7613 Hollow Bamboo Rod 7'6" 2/2 #4/5, Lyle Dickerson Model 661510 Bamboo Rod 6'6" 3/2 #4, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Guide Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 801510 Bamboo Rod 8' 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 7612 Bamboo Rod 7'6" 2/2 #4, Lyle Dickerson Model 761510 Bamboo Rod 7'6" 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 9016 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/3, Lyle Dickerson Model 9015 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 7012 Bamboo Rod 7' 2/2, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711 Special Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 801610 Bamboo Rod 8' 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 8615 Special Bamboo Rod 8'6" 2/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 961913 Bamboo Rod 9'6" 3/2 #7. . 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. Cynically, but I may not have entirely given up, yet. It might depend, but only a bit, on what you call "very nice" and I see that your figure for station rise was almost exactly the figure I suggested. But nobody has a right to ask me to share it. Click Here for Rod Raffle, Great Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly Fishing. Hardy Fly Fishing Rod Trout Fishing Rods & Poles 8 Guides, Hardy Fly Reel Trout Fishing Reels, Hardy Trout Fishing Rods & Poles, 0.369 (Al Baldauski). About a week ago I was fishing the hex hatch on a certain small Wisconsin stream for the first time in many years, with a 7.5 ft 5wt, and actually wished I had a much shorter rod, given the overhanging trees. 9 wt 0.0890. (Paul Blakley), I think a 7'6'' rod is short for any line weight. First found in the United States in 2014 in southeastern Pennsylvania, spotted lanternfly has spread rapidly through the eastern states. If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. John Pickard only way to go. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide. 0.111 To vary the straight line you can adjust the tip dimension. I fish mostly Michigan streams where you are wading the stream casting to the edges, and casting to rising fish wherever you are lucky enough to find them. I based the statement of one SLT for a line weight on Bob Norwood's tip dimensions. I think of it as an 8013G. Help from forum members would be welcomed. At Headwaters Bamboo Rod Company we build our rods based on proven "historical" tapers, meaning that the tapers we use were designed by Twentieth Century bamboo fly rod craftsmen. If you like I can send you a compensated SLT and you will see what I mean. I have made several and all have been well received. There are several different specs for this taper out there, three of which I use. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. In the local streams we suffer the length to enable some sort of roll cast, but use #4 or #3 lines. (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that. Interests: Building bamboo fly rods (occasionally), fly fishing for trout. 0.174 It has a small flex area in the lower tip with a stronger butt sloping up toward the end with a good butt swell; fast rod. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. I repaired the rod with by putting on a custom ferrule. CANE RODS Tips & Tapers by Ray Gould has another version that averages out the step down. (Jay Hake), Apparently Dickerson didn't think so. A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. It's been my experience that a straight taper can be a very nice rod when designed correctly; for example a 4wt with a tip of 0.068 and a station rise of 0.013. Using too small a ferrule may be a factor. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). Ten measurements on the butt and ten stations on the tip. Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. You could have chosen Tom Fulk's true arc taper as the norm and try to describe the deviations from that. Even if EC did "compound" his B-9 taper just in front of the ferrule for a specific reason, it wouldn't negate the fact that this is AT HEART A STRAIGHT TAPER. $95.00 0.168 The 7613 Golden Witch version, a 6 wt, has a somewhat softer tip than the 8013 getting stronger toward the lower tip. Yes you do have the seemingly limitless variation of moving the point or points and amount of material added or removed along the rod length. The biggest discrepancies are around the ferrules, and you'll notice in many "classic tapers" flattening of the slope into and out of the ferrules - presumably to make fitting a tapered peg into a cylindrical hole easier. The trouble is, really, that I know there are people out there who really do understand taper design, it's getting them to talk to us about it thats the problem. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. I highly recommend him. I would highly recommend the 8013 for your first Dickerson rod. 0.196 More than an eight weight is required to handle the largest of flies. 45 .216 .375 by avyoung 06/17/16 04:49, Post For any thing else but roll casting or keeping a very finite weight of DT in the air, it's useless. The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. Latterly, they considered that a fiberglass butt section would solve all their troubles. How would you characterize their casting characteristics? Powered by Shopify. (Gary Nicholson), So out of great curiosity then - how would you describe to me (someone who doesn't have a clue) how the action would feel or perform with regard to a "Straight Taper Rod" comparatively speaking. Of ~.070 the appropriate Morgan Handmill Cutter to match the geometry including the... Very specific to line weight guys who measured those rods cane rods Tips & tapers by Ray Gould has version... 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