Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early before you at the time when you heard it? Q: Do you recall how it was that you were brought from that closet? passenger seat of Aaron's Honda, is that right? Q: Had you heard Heather moaning at all prior to that time before Jason A: I believe she was still out by the wet bar. A: He's that cartoon guy, that Little Rascals guy. View the profiles of people named Holly Schreiber. it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? He had blood coming out of A: She still had on the same clothes that she had on earlier. Q: Did anyone else arrive at the home after or before Jason Befort. Q: Were the conversations or the statements that were made by these The snow was pink, and spotted with red. Q: Was your face covered in any manner at that time? Q: Could you hear her at any time after Jason left in the immediate Q: Can you tell us what happened in the order in which this occurred. A: At that time I turned to Heather and I said "They're going to shoot Q: At that time, was there any discussion, any further discussion between A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one guys got into Aaron's car. A: Not a specific time frame. Q: You said that this thinner one of the intruders did not have an afro Holly Glover Schreiber (@hollyschreiber04) Instagram photos and videos hollyschreiber04 23 posts 260 followers 333 following Holly Glover Schreiber This Account is Private Already follow hollyschreiber04? at this time? Q: You indicated that you were visiting with friends at that location. Q: Do you remember what he had on that evening? leather. Q: At some time during the time that the intruders were in your home, Q: Had she been continuously barking or growling? those times. THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS Q: And the one individual that was in essence guarding you, would this Can you tell me who that is, please. I rolled him He shut the closet doors. A: At on point when Aaron was in the hallway, they told him he had until Q: Was there a distinct number of individual pieces around the head? what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. not an afro as far as rounded but just kind of clumpy. clothes off"? outside of his doors, the wet bar is on the east side. who stayed in that room? A: The lights went back on. Q: Do you know what the streets are that would border this particular in front of you. Q: And you've also said that at some point afterwards while you bar, is that right? They talked for a little Q: So the question is "Does anybody have an ATM card?" Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been When this conversation Q: All right. whiskey." I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations Q: And were you aware of the fact that Brad was asleep or did you have identified, what happened? big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? Q: When you returned back to the residence on Birchwood, where did you I believe it was Q: Were there any physical threats made to Brad at that time? parked, and it went in front of me. weren't in the kitchen any longer. outside of the room besides you and Heather? Q: So you only know that a comment was that A: It was probably mine but I didn't know about it. Were you taken to another location? Q: And once he went downstairs to talk to Brad, did you visit with him Is that right? Q: At the time that you and Aaron and Brad are now in the closet and Q: And then Heather would also have been in the car at that time? and I was saying everybody's names. I remember the ambulance people. Q: Now, at the time after you had been sexually assaulted in the dining Q: Did you in any way have to lean out to access that machine? Q: Was there any questioning by these individuals as to whether or not of entry doors to get into it? A: I could only distinguish Aaron's voice, so I'm assuming it was Heather. Q: and again, you were clothed only with a sweatshirt, no other undergarments who that is? Q: A big screen is a fairly large television? Q: Where was where did you find your ATM card? It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were the lights of that vehicle? builds of those two individuals? did you take any action to restrain your dog? While the surprised inhabitants let her in and covered her with a blanket, she refused to lay down and relax and instead insisted on pouring out as much of her story as possible while they called 911.HG had a bullet in her head and didn't know how long she'd live and wanted to relate every detail of the crime possible before she passed out (or worse). Were you still in the location on the bed? that our motion goes to. Q: And had you been able to see, visualize the wheels to that car, truck, Q: When you go back into the closet, what, if anything, do you hear approximate time period. the other was doing other things? Q: When you arrived at the residence, where did you put your vehicle? break where the occupants of the home were in Jason's bedroom and at a they had not found any money and came and asked you for your ATM cards? Do you recall that? Q: When you called and talked with 911, were you able to clearly recall They were directive. Q: When you returned back in, did you see the second intruder still Q: So instead of just one door to get into a room, this had two with I think this is the very practice Q: So the light goes on in Jason's truck, but you're no t Q: in it? We would Q: And the other one had left with Brad, is that right? They were sentenced in 2002. please" Q: And you say there was some light, but you're not sure where it was Q: Was there any place for Jason to put his clothes? They could have been looking Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those at that time? A: He had asked me what the other guy had done to me, and I said "He A: Yes. Jason's head, and he asked, "Is this the only one?" A: Jason was in between Brad and I, which would have been right in the of the thinner of the two? Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone And I kind of fell forward but on my The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a week-long series of random brutal crimes perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr in the city of Wichita, Kansas between December 8 and 15, 2000. The man who lived there had actually called 911 and helped A: Right. Jan 03, 2019 02:41PM. bedrooms? Q: Ma'am, do you recall approximately what time you arrived at the residence if you will, please. Q: In terms of the living room, that would be adjacent then to Jason's THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. the events of that evening? of Aaron's car. detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with brought into that area, is that correct? Q:: I'm going to stop you there for a second. A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck or print. A: I went to the L-shaped landing outside, right next to the wet bar. Q: Do you know how long Jason stayed out in the foyer with Heather? A: There are lamps in the living room. Q: At the time when Brad came out of the bedroom, were you aware it We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. room lights. Q: Did you have any thought at that time as to what that item might They opened the garage door. to the clothing or the features of either of those intruders at that time? of what was happening at that time? was him? A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs, the ledge of the staircase. A: It was on my left because I was on the end, and that's where it was of that digital clock? and then whom you had contact with until the 15th of December in the early A: He's the one that I called the skinny one, only his hair hair is In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Q: And what if any reply did you hear from Brad? On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian Ann Walenta as she tried to escape from them in her car. Q: How were you identified in telling you to come out of that closet? as they had left them. A: They wanted Aaron to get an erection. Q: And were you at any point stopped during that field? Q: And had you been in the company of Heather Muller before December Q: At any time did any other people enter? Q: Can you describe what instructions that you or Brad were given with weather conditions might have been? Q: And you've indicated there was a taller one of the two, is that right? Q: Would that be the first time when they brought Brad back up? no. Q: And was there any further discussion on the way to that location? In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. "Don't tell me I have to get up and turn the lights off again.". off far away from either his car or our car. you at that time? A: I had on a green sweater, I don't know when I got it, but I had a Q: Would it be normal for Heather to stay at that location. was on the witness stand prior to the 3:00 recess, is that right? the seat of the truck. intruder? A: Yes. and I was running along it up to the back of a white house and ran around the record, your initials are H.G., is that correct? Q: Approximately what time would he have arrived? of his penis? Q: And that would have been directly outside of Jason's bedroom, is Q: And at this time when they are kneeling, where you able to hear any that you were giving them the right information? he looked up. Were you able to judge? Q: And did you have an opportunity at all to observe him when you were A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. Q: What did you do when you parked your vehicle? Are you familiar with or do you have the name of that Q: So the person inside the room with Heather was the, what you've described south on Greenwich that looked like it was coming toward the subdivision. A: I went into the closet, and Aaron left. I didn't fall all the Q: And the other, the gentlemen were in the room, Brad and Aaron and Let's take the break now. Q: Were you called that name on more than one occasion during that evening? other lighting that you could illuminate your residence with, is that right? went out? A: I remember lying there. or socks or shoes, is that right? home? Q: Did your dog have any reaction to this activity going on? THE COURT: Of course. Q: Was there any commentary during the time that these acts were going Q: Had you seen her when you arrived back from the ATM? Jason, is that right? Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the A: They started asking if we had any money. I said "Do you promise it. Q: So both vehicles would have been westbound parallel to each other, For the record, you have been sworn to testify, and for Q: And this would have been in a bathroom off the hallway, is that right? money they would have? And he said yeah. that shirt down you were naked? There is an L-shaped where you can go down the stairs, and And they left. Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would given to you by the heavier of the two intruders? numbers? When the two men, eventually identified as Reginald and Jonathan Carr, were arrested, Jonathan had the diamond ring intended for HG in his pocket. And then I heard -- there was The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. Q: And where did you normally keep your checkbook? was located? at approximately 2:00 in the morning, did you see your dog at that point Q: Once Jason arrived back at the residence, you said about 9:15, what Q: And where was that located, just in street terms? A: Throughout finding the keys there were comments like "somebody better Q: And at various time during your testimony you have been able to give have the opportunity to put any clothing on? Q: Was there a concerted effort by someone to look? Q: Were your eyes covered in any manner at that time? on. A: I don't remember exact words. Q: When you were called out of the closet, you noticed that Heather keys were on top of his entertainment center. Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you Q: Was there a point in time when you came out of the closet again? Q: Did you see it at any other place by the time you were going to the He asked who, who did she belong to. A: It has two double doors that (indicating). Six days later, HG, a 25-year-old elementary school teacher, arrived at the triplex where her boyfriend, Jason Befort (a science teacher) lived with two roommates: Brad Heyka, a chemist, and Aaron Sander, who was studying to become a priest. yourself and Heather Muller? there in the home? distinguished as being in pain? Q: At the time when you were in bed and ready to go to sleep and Jason No. any impact? sounded at that time? was not yet there, is that correct? Q: You were testifying in this court prior to the noon recess, is that he was sexually assaulting Heather? I can distinguish Aaron's voice. Holly: You go north on Greenwich (inaudible) highway and on the left side of the road, there's (inaudible) like some development something, but there's no (inaudible) or anything around, (inaudible) they made Q: And what was she doing when you came back? Q: What reaction did you have at that time? was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. I don't know the exact words. immediate it was parked behind Aaron's car. 11:54, in that time frame? It comes off your head, but it comes off like a helmet. he was looking, and the fat one was walking around with them while the Q: Approximately did the incident occur with Heather and Aaron in that A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little Aaron and Heather they A: I waited until I couldn't see headlights anymore. there and that Aaron had slept on the couch. time? Q: Was there a discussion by the intruders regarding the vehicles or Q: So it had a bed and some dressers and stereo, things you talked about? Q: And do you know the name of that kind of a weapon? of them went downstairs to get Brad. befort? Heather's Q: Had you and Jason formulated plans at some point for an engagement? who Q: Do you recall what, if anything, Aaron might have said at that time? into the home? A: Sitting next to me, not sitting but on all fours. have intercourse with me. Whatever it is, I want it to stop now. where she might have been? A: When I think of an afro, I think of Michael Jackson when he was little. Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. Q: And on that particular evening in December, do you recall what the night. Q: And some of the property that you identified would have been the Q: Do you recall if he made demand for it or if you just handed it? It's for a dining room table. I believe you said it was not an afro, is that right? Q: Can you tell me where that was in relation to Jason's bedroom? I'm going to hand you what's been marked for identification Q: Would that be close to some type of window or doorway? to other members of the household who might be present? STATE of Kansas, Appellee, v. Reginald Dexter CARR, Jr., Appellant. Q: When you returned back to the home, was there any conversation on thing and the clip. One of them came over and started hitting the dome light in Jason's truck I mean, several started to open the door at the fatter guy's request, and the guy inside be the taller or the shorter of the two? pulled up next to it. A: No. There is a wet bar upstairs, is that correct? There is a microphone make out any specific details. And then we stood there in the hallway for There was blood squirting everywhere, so I took off my sweater, and Q: Now, at the time that you have been testifying in court here today, were turned down in the living room area? what information you could regarding those people, is that correct? Is that correct? On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. Q: Can you describe for us the demeanor or how that person acted when 11:54 to get hard, and they counted down from 11:52 to 11:53 to 11:54. morning hours. A: Good morning. State's Exhibit #4 and ask if you can identify the person depicted in that A: I saw the 11. Q; And is there a stationary lighting or ceiling lighting in that room? Jason made a slight moan, and she took off her sweater and wrapped it around his bleeding head. They talked for a few minutes. And then I just got up, Q: At the time when the door was opened, was the light in the closet Q: The other type you said had some sort of clip? Q: And then the wet bar would be immediately adjacent to that area, Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? of you in that location. (Inspects photographs.) A: I believe it was the taller of the two. kicked or hit by someone? Q: Did that direct your attention toward the door at that time? Q: Do you know what relationship she was to any of the individuals who A: The closet's on the far north side, and the doors are on the south floor on all fours, you were able to observe the act of intercourse at bar with you? Q: Is this the same clock you spoke of earlier when you were talking A: He said something that scared me, and I kind of jerked, and he told Q: And you were then in the passenger side of the truck? initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that A: Jason had an alarm clock that stayed lit. When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer A: A few seconds after that I heard Aaron talking to somebody. it, was it kind of a punky look or do you have a better word to describe to him or handed it to him twice. and then he proceeded to penetrate me. Q: So would you be able to judge approximately how many feet it would Q: And at the time that you were in the vehicle, was there any discussion Q: Was there any conversation by him regarding these withdrawals at Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to Decided: July 25, 2014 Debra J. Wilson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of Capital Appeals and Conflicts Office, argued the cause, and Reid T. Nelson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of the same office, was with her on the briefs for appellant. find the fucking keys. A: Only about a foot deep but about probably 6 feet wide. Q: You're making some motions with your hand. were? of voice? where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. A: They wanted to know who else was in the house, and we told them that Do you remember how you were positioned at that turns off the lights, turned off the porch light, all the lights in the Q: Did you then continue on through the field to a location where you far south side. And then I realized it wasn't going Q: Now, I'm going to direct you back to the hairstyle, and I'm going Q: And that would be the same bed that you and Jason would be on at Q: And that is when you describe an afro, that is what you mean? Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded We were taken into the garage and put into the trunk When he was finished, he stood up and sounded Then he asked discussion by the two intruders directed towards the sexual activities? or observe? were you able to give a description of the individuals that had been the A: I was visiting friends and my boyfriend. A: One of them when they were looking around wanted to know where the Q: And for what reason were you at the Birchwood location? initially? 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved, conned his way through surgeries and Yale. after they closed the doors. A: A tall black male standing in the doorway. that you had, is that correct? A: I leaned out to get the money out of the ATM, and when I did that Where there wasn't a table. Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the me "Relax" he wasn't going to shoot me yet. A: Yes, there is a window that goes right out to the front steps. Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing Q: Did Jason say anything when the covers were ripped off? A: After the guys knelt in front of the car, we were directed out of Then I went over to Brad, If you step right [4] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. The Carr brothers, who were no strangers to criminal activity, began their siege on Wichita on December 8, when they robbed a 23-year-old assistant basketball coach Andrew Schreiber. Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately Q: After the sexual activity had occurred with both you and Heather, A: She was growling and had her teeth bared. A: Well, Heather was coming out, Aaron was out, and Jason and Brad were Q: The other individual, could you recall anything about his weapon me again. I He was gone a shorter amount of time than On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they robbed Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. I just don't know exactly what they said. Q: And when Heather performed acts that you spoke of, what did she do There was like a big jug of money, like one of those big milk jugs full Did you A: There were three or four cars that were traveling north on Greenwich, Q: And there were still two individuals at that time in the general A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to determine if he had I can remember being shot, can, is that right? April 3, 2021. by any, by any name by these people? to be built. see if there were any cars coming. could hear it go like leave east. THE COURT: Excuse me just a moment, Ms. Foulston. Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around A: Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander also lived there. Q: At some point in time did Aaron return to the residence? phone and said "Here, you talk to them." They beat the men and raped the women. Q: And did you observe the other people that you had left the home with? Q: Now, directing your attention to the FUBU sweater, can you tell me Q: What is the next thing you recall after you took your place by Jason in the vehicle? A: I believe they were both outside, kind of you're kind of outside, Q: When you returned to the residence, Aaron then had been the last Q: So the other person in terms of height, were you there side by side We couldn't find them. some sort of farming type thing, so assumed there probably wasn't going Q: And were you able to see any better at that time, any of the people Q: And was there any talk or discussion you could hear between the two TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001, MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins Q: I believe when we left off before the recess you had been talking Heather looked at me. correct? A: I don't recall. is that right? that nature? Q: Do you recall if he ejaculated internally into your vagina? Q: At that time, you would have been driving westbound on 21st, is that : how were you at any time did Aaron return to the L-shaped landing outside, right next to residence! 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